Ivermectin?!? And Covid19?!?

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I have been using the same bottle of Ivermectin to dose horses, cattle, and dogs for years so I am very aware of the complications involved in getting concentration and dosing right for a much smaller body.    I'm just too hard headed to pay a 6000% markup for someone else to do the dilution for me.   I have noticed that all the success stories involve using using the prepackaged pill form for humans and all the disaster stories involve the more concentrated large animal form yet few make the difference clear..

 
13 hours ago, caikgoch said:




I have been using the same bottle of Ivermectin to dose horses, cattle, and dogs for years so I am very aware of the complications involved in getting concentration and dosing right for a much smaller body.    I'm just too hard headed to pay a 6000% markup for someone else to do the dilution for me.


Same here.  Since we're going there:




  




"As always, read the frickin' instructions before sticking in the.... " 




Never give as "injection" to species not indicated for injection.  Oral dose only (ESPECIALLY HORSES)




If you do the math, the dose of oral paste comes out as exactly the same dosage mg / kg as for the 1% solution (1 cc / 110 Lb body weight)..  




Injectable solution can be given as oral dose, use same dosage as labelled for injection.




(1% injectable form only.  NEVER GIVE POUR-ON ORALLY OR TO SPECIES NOT LABELLED FOR).




I can also say it has a kind of shivery metallic taste-- .   




 




BTW:




https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/05/21/fact-check-india-covid-19-cases-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-not-related/5173021001/




https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...he-use-of-ivermectin-jim-hoft-gateway-pundit/




Indian govt ditches most popular drugs in new COVID-19 treatment plan | Ivermectin | Doxycycline:








 


 
Stop and think about this, though ... if there'd been no pandemic, how many people do you think would be yelling about how great it is to dose themselves with veterinary medicines?

 
2 hours ago, threelegs said:




Stop and think about this, though ... if there'd been no pandemic, how many people do you think would be yelling about how great it is to dose themselves with veterinary medicines?


Well, you know-- Veterinary medicine has always been the poor stepchild of human medicine.    Not so often you get a shitload of money and research for critter medicine; if at all it usually happens as animals are used for human medical trials.




Order pretty much any kind of pills for animals, google the markings on the pills, it'll come back as a human drug, along with human dosing, indications and side effects.  You want the critter info, you have to google "(whatever) for dogs".  




BTW, ivermectin is in the 2003 Physicians Desk Reference (big book of pills) as a human drug, for people who live in those kind of places where you can get parasites by walking barefoot.  Just not 30mg dosing--   


 
This is junk science and quackery of the most dangerous sort.  In no way is Ivermectin an antiviral.  It's strictly a treatment for various species of worms, lice, burrowing mites and other parasitic infestations.  Yes, it has been used in humans, for "river blindness" in the deep tropics / rain forest, for example.  This particular affliction is caused by a microscopic, parasitic worm which travels through the blood stream.  It has also been used against scabies, head lice




 The referenced articles read like propaganda; all glittering generalities, no specifics.  Anyone else remember Laetrile?  Just like that.




 It's hard to believe that a legitimately promising treatment would be so roundly dismissed and rejected by health experts nearly worldwide, save for a few "developing" countries.




 The recommended dose for parasitic infections in Humans seems to be 150-200 micro-grams per kilogram of body weight, which works out to about 10-13 milligrams for a 150-pounder.  My 45-ish pound dog gets 136 micro-grams for heartworm prevention (the bigger boy is a white footed herding breed with MDR1, so he gets something different.)




 The way COVID-19 kills older folks (such as myself) is by viral pneumonia.  However, younger people have been dying from it in startling numbers.  The start to recover from a relatively mild case, then suddenly go into acute respiratory distress and die within days.  This is caused by a runaway immune reaction called Cytokine Storm Syndrome.  This is exactly what killed most of the younger victims of the 1918 "Spanish" flu.  There are simple tests and a number of medicinal treatments for this, but no one seems to care.  They put the patient on a ventilator and walk away.  This is where Hydroxychloroquine would have actually helped.  People were taking it as a preventative or for mild cases and it proved useless for both.  It's an immune suppressant.  Properly applied, it would very likely have saved thousands of lives.  It's an old drug, though, and there are newer and more effective replacements, but they're not using them.  This is in spite of extensive write-ups by respected experts.




 But ivermectin is not an immune suppressant, nor an antivral.  I can't find anything definitively connecting it to the prevention or treatment of COVID-19.  Did they just try something at random?  Where is the research?




 


 
6 hours ago, DingoJay said:




Where is the research?


As near as I can tell, the "research" is isolated to one Jim Hoft mentioning it in a social media blog.  




So.  Here goes:




 




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There.  That should do it.  Facebook, are you listening? 




 


 
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