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A question from a fellow zoo
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Hi there, ive been a lurker for a while but im a bit too shy to talk often. Im not even sure if this is the right place to ask but beastforum is a bit too crowded and they seem more like fetishists who only do it for porn or money.




I have a question about my old german sheperd ( he is 2 year old so he is not old because the breed is called old german sheperd ). Ive been a zoo since i was 17 but im now 21. I live on my own with him and all i ever did was give oral to him but i finally decided to let him mount me. I have been letting him mount me for about 10 times now but it was never truly succesfull.




Sometimes he would penetrate me for a few seconds but at that point he is not entirely hard and it accidentally goes out which stops him from humping. For the last two tries he could not even get in me anymore and i think i might be missing something...




I have tried getting him to mount me when he is fully hard but that just doesnt work at all as it just slips past.




What am i doing wrong? I dont think you can somehow get it wrong by standing on all fours. is it because of my size? Im a bit small for my age. How do i stop him from accidentally exiting me?




 




Im really ashamed of this but can someone please help me? Can the thread be deleted when i finally get it to happen? Im afraid i will get in trouble with the police. Thanks for the help.


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#2


Firstly, there's no such thing as a silly question if you don't know the answer to it!




Secondly, we don't police discussions like that "other place" ! There are only a couple of subjects that are taboo: Anything underage and anything advocating harm to any (one) thing.




Many seasoned members here will gladly offer you advice, myself included, but I'm pressed for time right now...




So I'll defer to others for now  [img]<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/smile.png[/img]/emoticons/[email protected] 2x" title=":)" width="20" />



In the mean time, mrpaws, welcome to the forum. 




 




Hiway.


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#3


Hi mrpaws, and welcome.




Have you tried reaching back and guiding him in?




I haven't done this myself (always wanted to, though) but I've watched probably hundreds of hours of dog/human porn, and I can say this: failures outnumber successes many times over, even between partners who are clearly experienced. Also, the failures often have a lot in common. Most common problems seem to be:




* Dog not having clearance for his hind feet. He'll want to spread his legs out wide to pull his sheath back. You'll want to spread your legs out wide to let him in. Your stance conflicts with his, and he'll approach from one side or the other, and/or trample your legs. Sometimes they get in this way, but not often or for long. Remedy: keep your knees and feet together; crossing your ankles helps with clearance. Something else you might try: fold your legs under your body, knees against chest/belly. This might put you too low for him, so look for a firm cushion to boost yourself up on.




* Human holding too vertical of a stance. May be one of the most common problems; person gets on all fours and holds their torso up on straight elbows. Your back will be too steep for him to get a comfortable grip and he'll slide or step off. Remedy: bend your elbows, lower your shoulders, maybe even put your head on the floor. Don't forget to keep your hips in the air. If you get lower than he needs you to be, you can adjust upward a little.




* Dog gets too far up on human's back. I think the reason I see a lot of this is that the porn videographers ask for it,  wanting an easy camera shot of the dick in the hole. Dog is pointed more downward than inward and pops out. Remedy: position yourself such that the dog's angle of thrust is a little more upward than horizontal. This is natural for the dog, since a bitch's vulva is below her vagina; he has to thrust upward to get all the way in.




* A more subtle problem--the dog's hind legs slip or slide on slick floors or loose rugs or blankets. A rubber yoga mat would be just great for both of you; if one isn't wide enough, tape two together.




You may also consider missionary.




Finally, you may be despairing prematurely. I've seen vids with dozens of unsuccessful attempts over hours with inexperienced dogs, but they seem to catch on real fast once they've managed a successful mounting or two. Keep in mind also that we're not built for them; the skinniest human has far wider hips than any dog, and that might steepen the learning curve for them.




Keep trying; be patient.


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3 hours ago, mrpaws said:




Hi there, ive been a lurker for a while but im a bit too shy to talk often. Im not even sure if this is the right place to ask but beastforum is a bit too crowded and they seem more like fetishists who only do it for porn or money.




Welcome to the forum, glad to have you with us! [img]<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/smile.png[/img]/emoticons/[email protected] 2x" title=":)" width="20" /> I know the feeling about being shy as well: especially about  something like this. Yes by the way, you are largely right about BeastForum.. I had an account years ago there as a lurker and I still pop in from time to time.. It's changed a -lot- and is mostly a 'porn service' now.



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3 hours ago, mrpaws said:




I have a question about my old german sheperd ( he is 2 year old so he is not old because the breed is called old german sheperd ). Ive been a zoo since i was 17 but im now 21. I live on my own with him and all i ever did was give oral to him but i finally decided to let him mount me. I have been letting him mount me for about 10 times now but it was never truly succesfull.




Sometimes he would penetrate me for a few seconds but at that point he is not entirely hard and it accidentally goes out which stops him from humping. For the last two tries he could not even get in me anymore and i think i might be missing something...




I have tried getting him to mount me when he is fully hard but that just doesnt work at all as it just slips past.




What am i doing wrong? I dont think you can somehow get it wrong by standing on all fours. is it because of my size? Im a bit small for my age. How do i stop him from accidentally exiting me?




I've been a zoo since very young and I'm Male, my now-passed lover was a Male German Shepherd: a 120 pound one at that.. So from a man's perspective..




Make sure you have something soft you can lay on, preferably a 'poofy' cushion or blanket. Something comfortable. You're going to be stuck together for at least fifteen minutes or more.




You need to lay forward on your forearms and try to bring your knees as close to your elbows as possible: the idea is you give him something to grap, pull on, and once he's inside hold on to tightly enough to not slip out. We're obviously not shaped like bitches so our hips don't line up as well. The positioning is roughly the same for a Female human. Make sure you're ready for his size too: my shepherd was a pretty damn big boy so I'm glad (to an extend..) I was too young and dumb to figure out the 'tying position' back then. Remember you're going to be stuck for some time if you take him anal and if you're female a big enough knot could have you stuck vaginally for some time as well.




Something else I want to point out too: dogs don't always 'insta-mature' at 2 years of age. Some take longer, some shorter.. Some of his 'inability' may be him still 'figuring things out' if you know what I mean. Entertain him if he shows the signs and signals: but if nothing happens immediately give him and yourself some time to figure it out, it will come to you if you're patient. A quick aside, some larger breeds don't reach full sexual maturity until around 3 - 3.5 years of age, again just relax and take it easy: try with him when / if he shows interest.




By the sounds of it, it's mainly your position: if a stud can't 'find the mark' and drive it all home in the first few seconds, some lose interest and may not try again right away. Try some different positions, if that doesn't work give him some more time to figure himself out.. Also remember some canines aren't as interested in humans as others are. I watch over a Beagle male who's a prime example.. Not even a hump or an attempt to mount.




Make sure you're nice and clean too, their penile tissue is very sensitive (physically and neurologically: lots of nerve endings...) so don't tug too much, and watch things like piercings and teeth with oral... Also no 'fancy lubes': a good water-based one like straight KY or even J-Lubs is good enough. With as much fluid as a canine produces, especially at the start not a lot of lube should be needed.




Oh how to stop 'accidents', keep it to a specific place like a bedroom, use a certain color blanket, only allow him when you're naked etc.. I'm not saying to train him sexually, what I'm saying is pick a time and place where he'll get the hint that 'it's OK to be naughty' sort of thing. Gsheps have very high intelligence so he'll pick up very quick.




I hope some of this was helpful.



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3 hours ago, mrpaws said:




Im really ashamed of this but can someone please help me? Can the thread be deleted when i finally get it to happen? Im afraid i will get in trouble with the police. Thanks for the help.




Take it from me, someone who's been Zoo-exclusive for -years-: there's *nothing* to be ashamed of! You're in like-minded company here, all questions are welcome and there's no stupid ones. We're not going to fork you over to the cops like some of the members of BF.. I'm glad you joined us here.




There's more experienced members when it comes to Male canines, but I figured I'd give my input on the matter as well. I'm even open to PMs if you want to talk to someone more one-on-one..  So long as you're not harming your animal and not doing anything with an underage animal: you're always welcome here. [img]<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/smile.png[/img]/emoticons/[email protected] 2x" title=":)" width="20" />



Good luck and hope to hear from you soon.




EDIT: Good points Threelegs.. You wrote and posted your reply whilst I was writing mine. [img]<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/smile.png[/img]/emoticons/[email protected] 2x" title=":)" width="20" /> I can agree on all the dog porn too.. I really think it's more a position problem than anything. All dog + human combos have to find something that fits, and that takes a little time.




That being said, when you're not trying to 'get a good angle' or 'the perfect shot' (working around a camera...) it's a lot easier.




 




 


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... Damnit, should have added that link to my reply, nice post caikgoch.

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10 hours ago, mrpaws said:




I have tried getting him to mount me when he is fully hard but that just doesnt work at all as it just slips past.




This is the key sentence in the original post.   


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If you're still with us OP: I highly recommend you read Caikgoch's guide, as well as take a look at some mating vids and as much veterinary text as you can get your hands on... Sorry for dragging out a thread but you (literally) need to know the anatomy of what you're dealing with to avoid harming both yourself and him. 




The sentence Caikgoch quoted is the reason I'm writing this, I didn't think to respond to it before.




 


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19 hours ago, threelegs said:




Dog not having clearance for his hind feet.




I tried to but there is a few problems. He stops humping at that point and gets off me and try again in a few seconds. It also feels like i can hurt him too easily if i were to guide him in too hard ( im really sorry that i cant explain this well ).



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19 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




Remember you're going to be stuck for some time if you take him anal




I thought that getting knotted was a rare thing? His knot seems already too big for me even before he is fully erect..



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19 hours ago, threelegs said:




Have you tried reaching back and guiding him in?




I have not really paid much attention to this ( it always happen so fast for me and am anxious ) but this might be true. I will try to pay attention to this.



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19 hours ago, threelegs said:




You may also consider missionary.




We did try this but it seems my bed is a just little too low for that. Wish it was that easy ...



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19 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




You need to lay forward on your forearms and try to bring your knees as close to your elbows as possible.




Again another thing i didnt try. Seems like im bad at positioning...



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10 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




If you're still with us OP: I highly recommend you read Caikgoch's guide, as well as take a look at some mating vids and as much veterinary text as you can get your hands on... Sorry for dragging out a thread but you (literally) need to know the anatomy of what you're dealing with to avoid harming both yourself and him. 




The sentence Caikgoch quoted is the reason I'm writing this, I didn't think to respond to it before.




Yes, I thank all three of you for all this information. Im already too scared to hurt him to begin with so ill be really careful.




Ill go read the guide now.


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6 hours ago, mrpaws said:




I thought that getting knotted was a rare thing? His knot seems already too big for me even before he is fully erect..




Taking a knot isn't that rare.. It's nearly happened to me several times.. Once he popped in and was nearly stuck.. I freaked out a bit and shifted, pulling free before he could swell fully. It's best to relax, push back and sort of 'push out' with your anal muscles.. For  lack of a better term, like you're using the bathroom..




Now if he's really interested, and hasn't 'humped' yet he'll be really 'skinny' easily able to drive in with his os (penis bone). It's pointed and sharp, so make sure you are relaxed and he's got a good hold on your hips.. A slip of position or change of angle hurts a good deal when he jabs the wrong spot.



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6 hours ago, mrpaws said:




Again another thing i didnt try. Seems like im bad at positioning...




I wouldn't say you're 'bad' at it, you are your partner just haven't found eachother's sweet spots yet. You'll get it..




I may suggest one more thing too: if you haven't.. Make sure you're lubed a little in the hands and let him hump your hand to a full erection. Canines don't start out fully hard and will reach a full, tying erection right after they orgasm. Having him in your hands will give you some characteristics of his size and shape, thicknesses and length. These are important because if you can't take something the size of a large grapefruit and that's what he has: your next fifteen to forty-five minutes are going to be hell.




This will also allow you to see how he reacts to a tie, somewhat.. If he's a 'fidgety tie' (a stud who won't stand still, tugs a lot..) then you'll have to plan for that and maybe even try to move with him a little if he turns or pulls. My shepherd was a 'calm tie', he'd stand forever if there was a little pressure on his knot and allow oral.. He never knotted me: but as an example he'd stand put over me, even rest on me whilst inside: constantly squirting and pulsing..




Let me (or better, some of the 'more experienced') know if you have any more questions and we'll help the best we can.


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