04-09-2018, 07:01 PM
I wonder if you guys even realise how much your views are entrenched in this "either- or" narrative. How little imagination you have for a middle ground position. How quickly all our ideals become mere lip service in blind obedience to tribalistic instincts. "Us versus them" mentality.
Yes, a certain percentage of society will never be convinced of the harmlessness of moderate zoophilia. But those people with already firm negative beliefs isn´t what we should be aiming at as it´s per se in total vain. We should aim at the group of moderates in society, the majority who´s not engaged in anti zoo groups, never been exposed to zoophilia and bestiality before. We should make sure we offer the best image to them if you ask me. Being around horses taught me that a "heads through the wall" attitude won´t get you anywhere and only builds up more and more resistance. So why use that stubbornness approach here? Why not trying to understand society in what it is doing instead of playing partisan "blame games" and find new approaches that work better for us? Why this clinging to an approach that already has been proven to fail and led to lots of new laws worldwide?
Why not use smarts? We could swallow down our "zoo pride" for a moment and admit that our problem first and foremost is a communication problem. One of the aspects of that problem is: we don´t live up to our principles. We preach water when we´re attacked, but drink wine ourselves. All we say is considered a lie from perverted individuals only searching for a halfways decent semi rational justification for the simple reason we as a community just talk the talk, but don´t walk the walk. We say "exploiting animals is abhorrent", but many of us seem to be either very fond of animal fuck films or otherwise not recognising animal porn as another form of animal exploitation. The animal has nothing from being turned into a "film star" (and miss me with excuses like "but the profit from my homemade AP feeds the animals"; if you need shooting porn to provide for your animals, you shouldn´t have animals at all...) and it heavily increases the chances of identification by such things as fur pattern, environmental landmarks, faces etc....what probably will lead to incarceration of the porn makers, but almost surely to the death of the animal involved. NO normal person wants to adopt the seized animal of a beasty/zoo. Why are we so accusing society of animal exploitation in all the varying segments of the market, but are totally okay when animals are exploited by our own kind?
Just think of Aluzky for a minute...that very vocal guy jumping from comment section to comment section,spreading "zoo illumination" everywhere. Even his stubborn way of "exchanging" "rational" arguments shows how much even rather unimportant factors can heavily influence perception of us as an entire group. Now add how he was perceived when it came out that he´s preaching his "I have respect for the animals because I´m totally a ZUUUH!", but offers a dog walking service solely for getting access to dog...desppite already having a dog of his own. It´s not solely about the message, the messenger also plays a role. The catholic dogma, a rather irrational convolute of rules and don´ts, is harder to sell with a Borgia like pope than with a pope like Francis who actually walks like he talks. Why would anyone expect this to be different in our case? Stringency and honesty even when it hurts our own cause is missing. Instead, this tribalism making any compromises with society impossible is prevailing. And most of us who are following that "heads through the walls" approach are completely clueless about the growing antipathy of society towards us because of that attitude of total confrontation. The more partisan one side gets, the more the other side will also become partisan.
So, what are the alternatives here? Going on like we´ve done in the last decades, getting the same result of toal failure in every aspect? Or will we finally admit that it´s not only society´s fault, 110%? And use our wits to offer some real alternatives? I´m not insisting on my proposed model of zoophilia under supervision, but please miss me with just another attempt to offer a poorly disguised "total legalisation of Zoophilia is it!" solution. We need to adress the issues without any bias and with a healthy portion of scepticism towards our own excuses, explanations and justifications. We shouldn´t shy away from our own community´s taboos, in fact taking good care of those grey areas is a precondition that must be met even before we can expect any relevant and meaningful debates with the outside...well, with the moderate ones who haven´t already stumbled across our "public image desasters" and animal porn or are rational enough not to take the first perception of our scene as the final verdict. Just standing on your position, expecting the other to move first before you even think of moveing the tiniest little bit yourself isn´t gonna win you much sympathies and is perceived as unwillingness to compromise , not ready to give in order to get. Egocentric. Not trustworthy. Compulsive liar or victim of his filter bubble mentality. It´s not even to be called a stalemate. IN an era of reemerging conservatism, is opting for the most sexually permissive idea of "let´s make fucking animals legal for everyone!" actually a good choice? Or shouldn´t we adapt our expectations according to the changing zeitgeist pendulum swinging back towards a more conservative view of sexuality originating in the massive overstressing of the average person with all kinds of fancy new subcultures trying to force the public into not only tolerance, but full forced acceptance and perceived goal of privilege, not equality. The sexual revolution, like any other revolution, will eat its kids, folks. That´s what´s happening right now...and you really want total freedom and no interference in sex with animals? Living beings that don´t have the option to flee from abusive "zoophilia", dependent on the willingness for constant self reflection of the "zoo" involved. They can´t walk into a police station and call you a rapist themselves, you know...this " I fuck animals and therefor cannot be wrong" attitude is so toxic for our community. We all are sometimes victims of our own selective perception and are just a bit too convinced of this "zoos can´t do wrong" narrative for my tastes. It honestly looks like two equally extreme fronts battle for dominance here, our side being not a bit better, more rational or responsibly acting as our opponents. Either - or, you remember? Total opposition towards zoophilia on one and total unlimited , unhinged access to fuck animals for everyone on the other side, no ground in between. Does anyone actually believe cotinuing radicalisation will lead elsewhere but towards total obliteration of the ones who are outnumbered by millions and outgunned by large? With that stubbornness, you guys truly brought us into one of those "either - or" situations you seem to love so much...but it´s sadly not about "legal zoophilia" and "totally legal zoophilia", but about either learning to adapt or total failure, over and over again until governments around the world really had it with us animal fuckers and actually begin real oppression. SO, what will it be?
