Are we our own worst enemy?

[WinterGreenWolf]

16 hours ago, silverwolf1 said:




Is drawing public attention to ourselves inherently flawed and dangerous to us and our way of life? Is it even necessary?  Does having public approval or tolerance of bestiality or zoophilia change your daily life with your mate or companion, and how?

I don't think it's necessarily always dangerous, as stated in my thread I came out to a good close circle of friends a few years back and they understood completely (most of them did, there was one female friend whom I don't think likes me much these days: but you win some you lose some). That being said: spectacles like Hands, Aluzky and Whitney Wisconsin are -bad, bad- juju for us all around. 




It could be a decent idea to pose better animal cruelty laws, reverse some of the absolutely retarded bestiality laws (which solve nothing.. for those of us with a brain...) and maybe reduce some of the hostility.. I have a point on that one later, touched on by Ramseys..




As far as 'daily life', while it would be nice to not to have to constantly look over my shoulder, worry with blackballing or blackmail: nothing would change. They would still be my companion / lover / mate, our intimacy would continue to be private, and I'd do what I could to keep them always happy and healthy.




Not to mention not have to deal with the sneers and rash of bullshit about 'OH, you AREN'T getting your animal's genitalia mutilated, what -is- *wrong* with you?'. There's logical, even scientific reasons for not doing so, but just saying '(S)He's my mate..' would be so much easier. Yet again not a deal breaker and a 'need tolerance' to fix: a good ol' fuck off to the sneers of vets and public works just fine.




Now....

14 hours ago, Ramseys said:




But too, realise that we may never get there. Too many people think of their 'ankle biter' dog is their child.

These, these people should never even be allowed to have a pet rock! Yes, this makes me angry and yes I *am* going to vent...




These dumb shits are the same people who always bring up 'the situation' with sex, 'power imbalance', 'they don't know', 'their IQ is that of a two-year-old'.. I get -so- tired of that bullshit, I want to spew violently every time I hear that sick  old rhetoric..




Animals, are, not, human, children! Animals are also not 'innocent fur babies'. I bet that stallion plowing a Mare of his harem in a pasture is just there in his mind, to these people, going 'Oh I don't know what I'm doing! Oh why oh why, hey: magic baby!'.




It's absolutely laughable to me too, the old procreation drivel is just stupid too: if you say we can't read an animal's mind and don't know what they want, then neither can you! If you -know- that animals fuck eachother silly simply for a baby, you are the greatest Animal Psychologist,  Animal Behaviorist, Zoologist, and Biologist who's ever existed in human history!




Even most modern Biologists will tell you sex is had, and triggered: even the instinct behind sex is driven by Dopamine release.. Feel good, do more.. Really when you think of it, a non-human is the ultimate hedonist... They don't give two fucks really as long as something feels good and they get to do it. Doesn't mean they're stupid, or dumb. Sex can form very powerful bonds, but they're also not going to sit around for two weeks and think 'Was plowing that young human up the rear -really- a good idea? I mean it felt good but..'. No animal alive is going through that struggle, I can almost guarantee..




Sorry, a bit off topic.. But the 'pet-parents', 'fur babies', and animal-children bullshit really gets my heckles up.. Especially since some of it runs in members of my family..