11-18-2018, 07:23 AM
You know, 30-30: the more I see you two go back and forth with definitions the more I can really see both sides. We've discussed this earlier but I can certainly understand and relate as to why you feel how you do. To my discredit I should have given you the chance to prove that in the other thread: but I guess I sort of 'wanted to make myself known' in the pack, what I'd take and what I wouldn't from people. Guess that's kind of hindsight though.
As to the other thread that Silverwolf started about 'coming out to the public' I stated some things (and ranted) there that would be nice as a Zoo. Would be nice not having to hide and look over my shoulder all the time. That being said, again I know -why- it has to be done and how it got to this point now that 30' has explained some of the 'old drama' to me and caused me to do a little more digging than I'd done before.
Now, to Covfefelake, you may see this a little differently, but we need to get something straight right now. We don't 'fuck animals' just because they consent or because it's 'cool': emotion plays -all- the roles, and ticks all the boxes for us! That's -why- we're Zoophiles, and not just a group of animal-sex-seeking fetishists with cameras and hours of video. To us (ones like myself, 30-30, SIlverwolf...) this is a big thing in our lives. This is what myself and 30-30 were debating for most of the thread.
I will hand you that there's some persecutive elements and undertones to the whole mess: but again a lot of it is our doing. I mean hell Ken (Mr. Hands) was 'consentual', you can't force a thousand pound animal to just 'fuck you silly'. Ken's problem was that it was -just a fetish- to him, done in poor taste with stupid choices that made it to the public's eyes: the public isn't ready for us now and they -really- weren't ready for that shocker of a mess back then.
Political wise, a vast majority of the time I don't give a shit, hell I'm mostly a centerist (I can agree with left and right depending on the issue)..
I hope I didn't come across as -too- snappy to you by the way, but you need to understand that the attraction and attachment -does- matter to us. It's life changing in every way possible.
