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Are we our own worst enemy?
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7 hours ago, caikgoch said:




When I discuss consent it is assumed that I am speaking of the larger, legal arena.      My animal is a full grown, full sized stallion.     He is far larger and stronger than me.     Even ignoring the impossibility of forcing an erection, I have to exert significant effort to enforce MY consent on him.    There is no chance at all that I could ignore his.    




With that in mind, he and most horses I have known enjoy being ridden properly.      I'm his portable gate opener.      With me he gets to go places and see new things.      And there is a connection that comes from two bodies moving together and communicating directly, without words or symbols.




Very well said, it also shows when I see posts like this: that folks -are- willing to take the animal's perspective and thought processes in to account, communication no matter the level is always important.



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48 minutes ago, heavyhorse said:




This.  My late, great friend (stallion) never had a saddle, bridle, bit in his whole life.  I rode him without tack of any kind, possible only because he looked out for me, I'm not that great a rider.  Clearly he could have withheld his consent at any time.  He became very spirited when doing so, (carefully) showing off to the other horses that he was getting to do something special that they were not.  




That's pretty impressive, in my experience (limited!) with Equines, most of them are quite subtle and shy if you're 'new' to them, but have little to no qualm about telling / asking you something if they know / trust you well enough.




Wish I was better at working with Horses, but just never had the chance or guidance to do it right. My eyesight was always a limiting factor and because you're young in this area 'the old farts always know better', even if you have a new idea that could actually work better. [img]<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/tongue.png[/img]/emoticons/[email protected] 2x" title=":P" width="20" /> 




 


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Are we our own worst enemy? - by silverwolf1 - 11-16-2018, 03:08 PM
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