Are we our own worst enemy?

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4 hours ago, caikgoch said:




The one thing that gives value to all the pain is the hope that someone will learn from my mistakes and maybe a few individuals (of whatever species) will be spared pain.

I think that's practically a guarantee as long as the info is out there somewhere. The results may not be ever visible to you, but you should have confidence that it will affect someone, and that someone (and everyone around them) will be better off for it. I know reading about all this over time has made an impact on me, for one.




I've only ever been on the outside looking in on all the big blowups and political wrangling that have happened over the years. I was too young in the 'oughts to have skin in the game. I'm sad that it all had to happen and that many, human or not, are still dealing with the fallout.

11 hours ago, Thunder-Bay-Syd said:




Ultimately whatever I've written here I will freely admit is for naught. I gave up years ago trying to be any sort of guardian of the zoo community. It is just too painful watching these things unfold and meet their inevitable ends.

I don't think it is.




I thank you for merely even having the thought, at some point, of trying to be something like that for us...whether that idea was fully fledged or not. I'm really grateful. Regardless of how jaded I'm sure you feel now, I know that you made an impact.




Chalk it up to naive optimism, maybe, but it's a sincere feeling.