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A question from a fellow zoo
#51


yeah, 30 years when i was 20's i visited friends dogs, eventually you learn to controll your hormones and realize sex is not what life is alabout




 


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#52

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8 hours ago, mrpaws said:




Not really because i never feel happy. And.... husband? really?




Yes 'really', that's what he was to me: he was like a significant other to me.. Felt like my better half..  Not meaning to sound cynical but you don't think being a Zoophile is always, and all about sex: do you? Because I know a couple like that whom frequented these very forums.. Anyone who's red, or heard me talk of my experiences knows that I viewed my canine partner in much the same way one views a human lover. I know he isn't, but that's what the connection felt like.




Also, how is he not making you happy? Because you two can't just have sex on a whim? Why are you caring for him then? If it's that hollow why not find him a home, companion, or a lover who -will- be happy? Yeah, I'm being harsh now.. But that little comment kind of rubbed me the wrong way.




I know not every Zoophile is a romantic, or an exclusive.. But man come on, have a little more decency for your partner than just a 'toy'.. That's why I said stay *away* from places like BeastForum, and am glad it's going offline soon.



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8 hours ago, mrpaws said:




Why not? you tried it with your family dog. pretty sure they wouldnt be happy either if they found out. its not really any different.




It is very much different: I, my family OWNED and RAISED that shepherd from a puppy! I didn't fencehop to get my jollies. Nor will I ever.. No, they wouldn't be 'happy' with that turn of events. But you have to understand the difference between a lie of ommision / protection vs doing something stupid.. Fencehopping and especially getting caught is doing something stupid.. WHat happens if you get an overly-aggressive dog and get the tar bitten out of you hmm? Gonna sue the owner? "Hey yeah man, I was tryin' ta' fuck your dog and be really fucked my arm up.. Wanna help with the medical bills?...". Look, again I know I'm being cynical.. But you're starting to smell like troll with comments like that. One particular troll I've ran in to before here..




I will still continue to try and help even though some who are more experienced have either A) given the same advice or B) covered points I missed: I'll continue to try and help if I feel you deserve it.



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8 hours ago, mrpaws said:




have a few ways to easily get alone with some dogs so theres no risk involved.




Sounds like something WarCanine or even Aluzky may say... I really don't like the sound of that..




Do they belong to another Zoophile, has said Zoo given you permission? Are they nearby or distant? I get the feeling the answers to these questions are not going to be good ones.




Remember, if you end up in the news with dog dick up your poop shoot, you fuck ALL of us just a little bit further: make it harder for us to get any kind of talking points.. Because well: 'there goes another animal fucking Zoophile, just trying to get a piece...'. 



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8 hours ago, mrpaws said:




If he cant do it then theres no point in staying comited ( there isnt in the first place because dogs dont care ).




You really don't get it, I said that fucking another dog wouldn't help with you and your lover's problem.. You get sex, but that's all you get.. Not a solution to your problems.. I know damn well dogs usually aren't monogamous... It doesn't speak high of you though, least in this community  if all you want is just a quick lay without any love, devotion, or care for your animal..




This is very much why your comments earlier on rubbed me wrong, that's the exact air you're putting off..



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8 hours ago, mrpaws said:




Then thats the issue or our size. i can only know by trying with him regulary and also doing it with other dogs.




Again, read slowly and listen: THIS, WILL, NOT, HELP, WITH, YOUR, DOG! Just going out, and getting laid by another dog will get -you- laid.. You may learn what a tie feels like, what a pulsating doggy-dong is like.. But it will not help solve the issue with your own dog and your own problems -WITH- your lover..




We are still trying to help as much as we can.. But a dog isn't something to where if they don't perform, you just cast them aside for another.. You simply don't do that.




I'm not going to just out and out let loose on you because it won't solve any problems.. But the post you quoted me in does have my patience a little thin.. Especially since we've all been trying to help you.



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2 hours ago, mrpaws said:




a lot of zoos here seem to be fencehopping.




One more thing......




A lot of our 'older zoos' have admitted to fencehopping in the past, and also to how stupid it was.. I can guarantee you that the majority here are totally against fencehopping for multiple reasons.. Myself included.. Now, if you do not have an animal, are close friends with a local Zoo: and they give you EXPLICIT permission, that's a tad bit different.




If fence hopping is your go-to, if that's the path you go down then I'll wash my hands (paws?) of you completely... I don't have problems with former fencehoppers if they are willing to admit their mistakes, buf to do it just because your OWN DOG won't screw you senseless, pretty low to me..




 


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#53


Let me offer you a little tiny bit of a clue.     I have cameras hidden in strategic spots around my place.   They are a less than two inch cube that ties into the WIFI.    They notify me if something moves when it shouldn't and can be watched at any time via my phone.     With internal backup they cost me thirty six dollars each.




DO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR FRIEND DOESN'T HAVE ANY??????? 


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#54

Very true, friend or stranger..  Take it from me too: and all my digging on people online.. Once those videos make it out buddy you're done for..

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#55

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3 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




Yes 'really', that's what he was to me: he was like a significant other to me.. Felt like my better half..  Not meaning to sound cynical but you don't think being a Zoophile is always, and all about sex: do you? Because I know a couple like that whom frequented these very forums.. Anyone who's red, or heard me talk of my experiences knows that I viewed my canine partner in much the same way one views a human lover. I know he isn't, but that's what the connection felt like.




I feel the same way but he cant be a husband if he didnt marry you. i also feel romantically attracted towards him but it doesnt make me his sigifact other, he never gave consent to the relationship so i cant be sure.



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3 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




Also, how is he not making you happy? Because you two can't just have sex on a whim? Why are you caring for him then? If it's that hollow why not find him a home, companion, or a lover who -will- be happy? Yeah, I'm being harsh now.. But that little comment kind of rubbed me the wrong way.




I still love him but i have fucked up my life a little which makes it hard to enjoy life. id rather not say it because a part of it is also illegal and i dont want to be more of a target then i already am.



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4 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




Fencehopping and especially getting caught is doing something stupid.




As i said there are not always risks involved. im more in danger at home because of my family.



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4 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




WHat happens if you get an overly-aggressive dog and get the tar bitten out of you hmm? Gonna sue the owner? "Hey yeah man, I was tryin' ta' fuck your dog and be really fucked my arm up.. Wanna help with the medical bills?...". Look, again I know I'm being cynical.. But you're starting to smell like troll with comments like that. One particular troll I've ran in to before here..




But animals have a clear language. my dog couldve also bitten me at first.




Never heard of a fencehopping where someone got bitten. then just fuck a dog that you know well like i do.



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4 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




Do they belong to another Zoophile, has said Zoo given you permission? Are they nearby or distant? I get the feeling the answers to these questions are not going to be good ones.




No but so what? he doesnt live too far away but i know him well.



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4 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




Remember, if you end up in the news with dog dick up your poop shoot, you fuck ALL of us just a little bit further: make it harder for us to get any kind of talking points.. Because well: 'there goes another animal fucking Zoophile, just trying to get a piece...'. 




Why are you being so dificult? Im not trying to fight here. I already said the risk is more higher at my home than his so you might as well scold me for doing it with my own dog rather than someone elses..



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4 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




You really don't get it, I said that fucking another dog wouldn't help with you and your lover's problem.. You get sex, but that's all you get.. Not a solution to your problems.. I know damn well dogs usually aren't monogamous... It doesn't speak high of you though, least in this community  if all you want is just a quick lay without any love, devotion, or care for your animal..




I dont see the problem. If sex is not possible with him why should i stay from sex all together? The much times i tried with him is too much and i believe we arent compatable.




Why can fencehoping not involve love? Please tell me because i can actually connect with others dogs. Maybe you cant but i can.



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4 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




THIS, WILL, NOT, HELP, WITH, YOUR, DOG! Just going out, and getting laid by another dog will get -you- laid..




Are you telling other dog owners the same thing? Its not cruel to not let an animal have sex. Most dog owners dont even do that so he already is a lucky dog.




And ill still be giving blowjobs so i dont get what the problem is??? He will still get his rocks off.



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4 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




ou may learn what a tie feels like, what a pulsating doggy-dong is like.. But it will not help solve the issue with your own dog and your own problems -WITH- your lover..




It actually will help him because id be more experienced and know what to expect which means itll be easier to have sex with him ( if he can have sex with me at all ).



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4 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




We are still trying to help as much as we can.. But a dog isn't something to where if they don't perform, you just cast them aside for another.. You simply don't do that.




I'm not going to just out and out let loose on you because it won't solve any problems.. But the post you quoted me in does have my patience a little thin.. Especially since we've all been trying to help you.




Im not putting him aside im just making a normal thoughtful choice. Just a example but if i were to train him as a police dog but he isnt campatable id have to train another dog and then use him for police work. Nothing wrong or bad with that its just how life goes.. you are not clarified to do something theyll choose something else. This doesnt mean im not his lover anymore it just means he cant mount me but ill still get his rocks off for him.



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4 hours ago, WinterGreenWolf said:




A lot of our 'older zoos' have admitted to fencehopping in the past, and also to how stupid it was.. I can guarantee you that the majority here are totally against fencehopping for multiple reasons.. Myself included.. Now, if you do not have an animal, are close friends with a local Zoo: and they give you EXPLICIT permission, that's a tad bit different.




I already told you why its not bad. I dont want to make fights but thats not very smart not my fault you hold that opinion for no good reason..



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3 hours ago, caikgoch said:




DO YOU KNOW THAT YOUR FRIEND DOESN'T HAVE ANY??????? 




That is a thing i havent thought about but we dont live in a fancy area at all. The dude doesnt even have a computer so i would be surprised. I could always take his dog with me home because its not like i can stay at his home all day.


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#56


You know what ill just leave. Im sorry for not having the exact same ethicals as you all and causing problems. Im sure youve all done things i dont agree with either but i wont judge you for it.




Thanks for all the help i got again. I think i better not say what im gonna do so just assume the best has happened.


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#57


Your choices are your own, but I don't think on either side that they are going to be good ones.




On a better note: I'd like to thank all our older, and more experienced members for offering advice in this thread, I even learned a thing or two. [img]<fileStore.core_Emoticons>/emoticons/smile.png[/img]/emoticons/[email protected] 2x" title=":)" width="20" />



I hope you all don't think I was judging him, mere calling out some things about his arguments and logic that just weren't sitting well.




 


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#58

I don't live in a "fancy area" either.   In fact, it's more farm than anything.    But I have a great all digital network connection because when you have to cover miles of territory, fiber and cellular are both cheaper than copper.

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#59


I regret going here because of how self righteous you are.. imagine still feeling your right right even though your arguments arent even right. Thats sad and you were judging me.




I can decide that they are good ones and i already said so why. Why keep ignoring that theres more risk at my home than his? You ignore my logic and arguements for what reason? just accept that youre wrong then i wont judge for it. ill only judge you for being so stubborn for no good reason. Because of this ive been doubting what youve been telling me.. its hard to trust dumb people who are so entitled to their opinion they wont ever change.




And caikog where i live cameras are very rare. We dont live in a high danger area like us and by not fancy i really mean the opposite of fancy. IF he doesnt even have a computer then why would you expect him to have cameras?




If he really has cameras hanging around then thats the most he spent his money on and i would be very surprised. Its not his priority not even close.


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#60


Do you know where I live?     You might have a general idea because I have a multi-year history available to all and I haven't been very secretive about it.    I don't know where you live because you don't even have a multi-month history yet.     So you get generic answers.   




BTW, where I live you have to have a broadband connection to have a telephone.     They turned all the analog equipment off years ago.


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