01-20-2018, 11:44 AM
Sorry for the thread "necromancy", but falsehoods were uttered in here and I feel the need to respond to those in order to correct some of the misconceptions.
First, yeah we zoos always complain about "the unjust" public, but has anyone ever wondered why this whole gerbil inserting myth has gained so much traction? Could it be that we ourselves gave the impression of such an "anything goes!" mentality as the predominant one in our community, with all of those "zoos" shamelessly writing down ever their weirdest and most twisted kinks in forums like BF? When our scene has individuals like this Janis Benda guy, the one who taped down and tortured this German Shepard for his own sexual gratification, is it really so far fetched to assume that some of us might consider squishing a live gerbil into their rectums? Try to shift your perspective to a "nomal" persons viewpoint, just for a minute....read through some "zoo" forums like BF and then reconsider that whole gerbil thing again? Really so far fetched? When we´re under attack from the outside, we´re all like "Noooo, we despise things like that! No way somebody in our community does such a retarded and cruel thing!"...but the "music" totally changes once we´re "among ourselves"...then, criticism of some people´s actions suddenly becomes "intolerance" and "hate". What our community suffers from and what this gerbil myth is but a symptom of is the Grand Canyonesque type of bigotry we display as a community. No "vetting" was and is done in our community...and this gerbil myth is just a logical result of that...."they", the society have no means to differentiate the "good" from the "bad" ones due to the extended overuse of the z-word...plus, "they" can absolutely imagine us doing that because there literally is nothing, no sexual practice that can´t be found in our "community" unwithspoken,uncontradicted and cheered at.
Second point: Caikgoch said that bestiality brothels are non existent just because "female animals are extremely selective"....well, that´s not an argument against brothels, that´s just a smoke grenade thrown. Of course there are many ways to force a female into submission, into tolerating intercourse. There´s training that can be done, there are many means to make a female animal "tolerate" intercourse. If it wasn´t , there wouldn´t be so much "zoo friends" visiting animal owners the first time and resulting in animal porn made thereof. With "extremely selective female animals". The bestiality scene has a shitton of this to offer, you just have to take off the "zoo blindfold" to see it. It´s there, plain in the open. And if female animals are so selective, why are there idiots invading other people´s pastures at night then and get what they want on "first contact"? And why does any zoo think that zoophilia/bestiality, among all the other sexual "sectors" of mankind is the only one that won´t create brothels? What makes "us" so special? There are kiddie brothels although child abuse is prohibited almost worldwide, so illegality also isn´t a "reason" not to assume that some people try to make a happy and easy buck out of "zoophilia". There ARE lots of people pimping out their animals to strangers/"zoo friends"...that´s a fact. Even female animals are pimped out to them...so all this "female animals are extremely selective" is only partially right, if it is right at all.
On the entire Kenneth P. case, I won´t say anything more but what the Vice article presented as a final comment on this case. "Maybe those "zoophiles" don´t love animals, maybe they just love huge dicks"....for me, this is the perfect resumee of the entire Enumclaw case.
On Doug S., I won´t comment too...all things already have been said, but sadly some of us still feel the need to glorify him, show understanding where it is totally inappropriate to do so. If you can´t afford running a farm, then DON`T have a farm...if you need to shoot porn to "pay the bills", your entire concept might just be very selfish and not at all showing any concern about the welfare of the animals in your custody. There is that German saying "The only way to become a millionaire with horses is if you were a billionaire before" and it isn´t there without any profound reason. Horses cost money. If you don´t have it, then DON`T OWN HORSES!! What if Spinks horse gets a colic? "Hey, doc, you´ll have to wait for the money, I first have to shoot some animal porn to pay for the surgery"?!? Really? And I´m not even touching the concaine dealer issue here...
Summary: Folks, it´s incredibly easy to point fingers at "the unjust society". It seems incredibly hard for our community to open up its eyes for our own wrongdoings, our own bullshit. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why we´re not getting anywhere for more than two decades now. We´ve installed a "comfy zone", we created the "zoo filter bubble"...and sadly mistook those two creations of ours for actual reality. We will only change the status quo for us if we dare to leave our "zoo bubble" and rejoin actual reality, with all that is involved in doing so. We need a moral compass that is obligatory for ALL zoos world wide to get enough leverage on society or else, all our well thought arguments are easily dismissable by a few mouseclicks. We also have to abandon the incredibly misleading idea that we CAN TALK TOLERANCE into society...we can´t. All "zoo activism" I see out there is nothing but trying to force your head through a massive concrete wall...and it´s equally successful. A paradigm shift is overdue. We need to get rid of what is commonly and uncontradictedly accepted in our own community. We need to push the reset button and start all from scratch, with an extra eye on public image, effectiveness, tactical possibilities...we need to get this "activism" from a poor amateur level to a top 10 pro level or we won´t get anywhere and additionally will only invoke more and more disgust, rejection and repulsion in society. It´s not THEIR fault, it´s mainly ours as a completely unflexible, ideologically fixated community that isn´t able to assimilate to society. Not stubborn iteration of "zoo truth" will make us progress, only flexibility, compromises and placing the animals before EVERYTHING else might. TRUTH instead of PROPAGANDA, critical thinking instead of corps mentality, self criticism as well as criticism of our community as a whole. What we need isn´t just another "Go on!", what we need is "STOP! Let´s do some thinking, find another strategy, clean our own front porches before pointing fingers at society...." If we want to be taken seriously by society, we MUST become way more serious...the "happy fuck" and the "anything goes!" both have to go....or it will be us who won´t exist in the future. Wake up, folks....it´s about time you raise from your "animal fuck paradise" dreams....
