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I'm here, for better or worse. Yes, the Eagle of old.
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Resident Hyena, there´s a reason why the majority of zoos are highly sceptical when it comes to "ornithophilia" and such. To put it in simple terms: birds are no mammals. While mammals all share the same basic blueprint, have comparable sexual organs and most of the higher mammals even have similar neurochemical mechanisms, birds , reptiles and such are so different , it makes it quite hard for us to believe in what the "special interest zoos" usually say. A cloaca isn´t a vagina, to put it in bland words. Mind you, I´m not saying you´re "not a zoo", but only trying to present you with a halfway logical and decent explanation for the common rejection of people like you. And to be honest, I too have my difficulties seeing how a mutually satisfying , safe and ethically reasonable relationship with a bird or a reptile could be like. I know there are some birds among the most clever animals, such as ravens, but I have a hard time trying to identify any emotion in birds, for example. I and possibly the majority of zoos have it easier to tolerate, for example, a rat zoo because , well, at least we share the same basic evolutionary blueprint with rats. With dolphin zoos, it´s the same...it just seems less far fetched than claiming "bird love" or "reptile love"....well, as a mutual thing, you know. And this perceived onesidedness of love, with the human seeing far more in it than the involved animal, may be the real reason why so many zoos are not exactly "bird people friendly", many out of sheer instinct paired with their internalised basic ethical principles, others like me who actually have invested some time to think about this issue may not exactly share the same level of hostility towards bird folks, but a fundamental doubt just remains. Maybe we´re also victims of our mammalian reality tunnel here, but not sharing the same, closely related evolutionary blueprints, resulting in a way higher "incompatibility" on both physical and psychological "features" is something that definitely should be considered.




What else could have contributed to the general hostility towards you may be the fact that every "veteran" of those forums knows how high the fantasizer and roleplayer ratio among us is....especially people with more uncommon attractions often turn out as one of the both types I mentioned. I don´t know why both kinds of people do this and invade our grounds, but I surely know the effect of a high saturation with impostors, liars and people literally abusing you as their virtual sex toy. These folks poison our entire community although many of us still consider those impostors as a tolerable thing in our forums. What they don´t seem to deem important is the constant loss of trust in other "fellow zoos", especially when the story they are presented with is unusual. And you have to admit, among us, the "ornithophiles" are scarce.




I strongly believe you wouldn´t have faced so much opposition if our community had a different quality, with honesty being put first. I don´t mind if someone has no real experience with animals or claims to be in love with birds etc...but only if he clearly and honestly communicates that. Our community might be a little less "fun" like that, a little less cozy echo chamber, a little less trying to escape from grim reality by roleplaying a fantasy character in our forums, but stopping all of that would tremendously help not only you in getting a better start in our community, but all of us, because we could finally stop pampering each other´s egoes and start doing the actual work that´s needed to improve our stance in society.




If you´re the "real deal" and not one of those people who try to stand out from the "average" horse and dog zoos solely for the "special snowflake" effect and attention whoreism, I am sorry for how you have been treated. But I also know you can´t fully blame this on us as a community alone...it´s the strange dynamics of the internet and a couple of idiots who feel drawn towards "the animal fuckers" despite not even considering any true sexual action, relationship or any sexual interest in their real life. It´s them who have installed a certain general basic atmosphere of distrust among us, making it hard to lend pepole like you an open ear and try to objectively find out about uncommon attractions´ tolerability. Lies destroy everything, everywhere, everytime... 




   


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