09-28-2019, 08:25 PM
(This post was last modified: 09-28-2019, 08:34 PM by WinterGreenWolf.)
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2 hours ago, silverwolf1 said:
My own opinion is that the dog is not sexually AND emotionally mature before 1 1/2 to 2 years. They can indeed engage in heavy sexual behavior before this, but that doesn't mean they should. The dog doesn't know not to go beyond learning about his/ her body and hormones slowly, but the human ought to be responsible enough to control his lust ( because it certainly isn't anything "zoophile") and not let the dog do so. This "in nature" stuff is crap. The Domestic Dog does not live in nature and is behaviorally different from wild canines. Unless you're referring to Huskies, most won't even survive & reproduce "in nature".
Sorry Silverwolf, but I have to disagree strongly with the 'nature is crap' sort of statements.I won't go in to details with that here, as it's mostly personal bias.
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2 hours ago, caikgoch said:
There is one thing that must be absolutely clear. Humping is a reflex and can be triggered almost from birth but has nothing to do with sex. If you think he is interested in sex because he humps, you are mistaken. His penis will not be fully developed and when the knot begins to grow, it will hurt. Mother Nature doesn't care because he may be his bloodline's only chance but he will. He will grow up associating sex with pain.
This is true, and why I say you REALLY shouldn't do anything sexual at a young age..
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59 minutes ago, heavyhorse said:
What I said appears to have been interpreted in various ways by various people. It is not my intent to argue. I stand by my earlier post.
Same here.
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8 minutes ago, DingoJay said:
When I was young and clueless (20-ish) I got my first "my" dog. He was male. At quite an early age, he began humping and displaying a rather impressive erection, including a knot. Well before puberty. Of course, I encouraged this behavior and gave him a "helping hand" on a frighteningly regular basis. He never seemed antsy or distressed while I masturbated or sucked him; he always stayed right with me until he was finished.
It was all great fun until he got about halfway through puberty. He became quite aggressive, started marking in the house several times a day and picking nasty fights with the other male dog in the family. I was still living at home, and things got bad enough that it nearly came down to "Get rid of that dog or get out!"
As a last resort, I ended up having my pup neutered at about 8 months. I had been engaging in sexual behavior with the older male dog for several years without any undesirable side effects, but he was 3-4 years old when we started that. My parents had him neutered shortly after my pup was done. It took a little less than a year for the hormones to wear off and the bad behavior stopped and the boys became friends again. From what I've read and heard, I got lucky.
This is not a unique situation. After I got on the 'Net, I chatted with a guy who started having sex with a very young, male Rottweiler pup. The exact same scenario played out, in spite of the fact that I had warned the guy about what would happen if he continued. Around 7-8 months, the pup started peeing in the house and fighting with the other (male) dog. He gave the pup away, he was passed from home to home until somebody had him snipped.
Hopefully, someone can learn from my mistakes and not shit-can a nice pup because of their own out-of-control lust. I've had several dogs in the past 40-odd years since I got that first pup, but I have learned to keep my hands to myself for at least 1-1/2 to 2 years.
BTW, I continued having sex with the two neutered boys. They even encouraged me to do so and everything worked as designed, except there were no more fluids.
Quoted for Truth here: whilst not a GUARANTEED to result in aggression, fights, or problems.. It's more likely to happen if 'started' too early..
