01-24-2020, 01:54 PM
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18 hours ago, heavyhorse said:
There's DNA evidence that modern humans were "doing" other hominids; the neanderthals didn't as much go extinct as go "critter hybrid".
I read that study too. The Indo/European races share dna from neanderthal samples, as do some of the Indo/ Asian. Asian races shared some "Java Man" dna as well. Only the Sub Saharan African races were found to be pure of any 'mixed' dna. Indigenous tribes worldwide had purer dna than more 'modern' societies. Hitler would have had a heart attack. Interesting read though.
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18 hours ago, heavyhorse said:
And personally, I'm pretty well convinced that there's a good reason domestic dogs have huge "critter bits" compared to all the wild canids. It's called "selective breeding". Waaaay before anyone understood genetics, they were keeping and breeding their favorite critters in preference to the less favorites.
Farmers invented genetics. For millennia we bred and planted, and chose the best for our purpose, not just the fittest for survival. WE circumvented evolution for personal preference, and that is genetics in it's simplest form. Did we do so for ease of inter-species sex? Foremost on our ancestors mind would have been survival; of self, the animal, the animals offspring. Period. Next would be ease of breeding; for the STUD or COW (sow, bitch, mare, etc), not US. Third would be a long breeding life to get as many healthy offspring with the same points. Somewhere we 'might' breed for our own ease, but it'd more likely be ease of handling. You want a calm tempered, friendly animal.
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18 hours ago, heavyhorse said:
And personally, I'm pretty well convinced that there's a good reason domestic dogs have huge "critter bits"
Ease of delivery of the pups.
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On 1/22/2020 at 6:31 PM, Ramseys said:
Just admit it already!
Depending in what part of the world you are living, in the not too distant past, (or maybe even today) people shagged animals. A lot.
But no one wants to admit that their ancestors bumped nasties with the livestock.
I grew up on a farm, a "breeding farm" full of beautiful mares. We were a 'live cover' farm, unlike so many today who think AI is the only way (you pretty much only see live cover with horses on Thoroughbred or 'hobby' farms now). We also raised and bred Jersey cows, three breeds of sheep and Border Collies, all purebreds. And we had grades in horses, cows, sheep, goats, dogs and unfortunately cats (I hate cats). I saw a LOT of animal sex, a lot. It wasn't the animal sex that had me playing with my favorite dog at night though. I admit living in a rural environment 'normalized' sex for me some from a young age, though it really didn't help when I was raped by the neighbor girl at 7. That still hurt & confused me though I knew what sex was.
I think the percentages in Kinsey should be looked at with the newer studies, their samples considered, yet they be taken as fairly accurate over time. I'm sure bestiality existed at about the same rate in the past as it does now. Folks, especially in this community and with wishful thinking, point to myth and imagery of ancient times as an indicator of a greater instance of it in distant times, but I hold that that also is not true. Look at the myths & legends attached to that bestiality. They are tragic, they are warnings, they forebode rather than condone. The very few that do not are the realm of Gods and Kings, not mere mortals, to undertake this bestiality and the animal is either a Goddess or is sacrificed.
The emphasis until VERY RECENTLY has been on population growth in every civilization worldwide. If a mans wife was not in season, he found one who was, and was expected to. 20 children, in and out of wedlock, were not too many even into the early 20th century. My own grandfather had 13. The more on the farm to share the work, the better. Remember that until the mid 1800s the life expectancy was the early 40s for most folks, and farmers could expect die before their city cousins because of the hard work and lack of access to health care.
Did it happen? Sure. Did it happe more often than now? Doubtful.
Now, Did it happen in MY family? Here's the tricky question. Is Bestiality hereditary? Is it a genetic "thing"? I say an emphatic "No!". Why? A simple, unsupported and unsupportable, if it were hereditary that would make it something forced upon me and it is not. I CHOOSE to have sex with individuals who are of another species. It is NOT genetic.
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